How did Microsoft screw this up? - Surface Pro X (SQ2) vs M1 Macbook Air

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Windows on Arm laptops have been out for years now - so how does Microsoft's flagship Arm device, the Surface Pro X SQ2, measure up to Apple's arm-powered M1 Macbook Air?
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Comments

  1. P W

    P WDay ago

    What a terrible review

  2. SnowBlazed

    SnowBlazedDay ago

    Intel "Outside".

  3. NightSociety

    NightSocietyDay ago

    The sad part is M1 hardware can run beautifully, think the downsize MacOS is very difficult to learn, not user-friendly.

  4. Drew Marshall

    Drew MarshallDay ago

    The last invoice prudently haunt because june unfortunately clip into a many deal. awful, fortunate maraca

  5. Jd Toledo

    Jd Toledo2 days ago

    Aaron Rodgers on this video, now I know why they lost. He was dicking around instead of practicing.

  6. InvertLogic

    InvertLogic2 days ago

    my condolences for Intel! lol 9:05

  7. Michael Finn

    Michael Finn2 days ago

    I have my MacBook Air, 2013, yes 2013... Waiting for my Airbook 2020 version to be delivered. 8 years since I updated, now thats quality. Where can i sell my matchbook air 2013 and for what price is a good price. ????

  8. BushBoyy

    BushBoyy2 days ago

    can you review the surface laptop go

  9. Fadic4

    Fadic42 days ago

    Linus is still complaining about apples marketing even though they pretty much hit all of their targets from their presentation lol...... is he still salty about the reaction from his terrible press conference video?

  10. Programmieren lernen mit Chris

    Programmieren lernen mit Chris2 days ago

    hehehehehehe

  11. Tooleater

    Tooleater3 days ago

    Didn't ARM reach the desktop back in the 1987 with the Acorn Archimedes?

  12. Tooleater

    Tooleater2 days ago

    @npgoalkeeper _ 😱 your Risc OStracizing the entire Acorn community with that comment 😉 It's great to see a real powerhouse ARM processors coming to the consumer desktop.

  13. npgoalkeeper _

    npgoalkeeper _2 days ago

    Yes, but nowadays it has actual formidable advantages and the software support necessary to shove it down consumers' throats

  14. FunOnly4me

    FunOnly4me3 days ago

    Would be fun to compare performance of Surface Pro X vs M1 MBA/MBP 13 running the same softwares (with Parallels preview for the Apple rig) in Windows :D

  15. Jose Pereira

    Jose Pereira3 days ago

    Who else came here after watching that Microsoft ad of a 10 year old comparing the Surface pro 7 to a 2020 MacBook Pro?

  16. Leon X. LIU

    Leon X. LIU3 days ago

    I say it is a very confusing time, for consumers. Is it risky to get an 'old' architect machine now?

  17. Andy Campbell

    Andy Campbell3 days ago

    This guy is a total Bozo (see his trip to NASA to talk about the Apollo program ). By his own admission he is using DEVELOPMENT SOFTWARE on the Surface 10 then he is running benchmarks!!! TOTALLY MISLEADING THE VIEWER ! Then he suggest that Microsoft are charging $100 more for this device than the Apple machine - THEY ARE NOT ! The Surface is $899 ! $400 CHEAPER THAN THE Apple !!!! THIS RVIEW IS TOTALLY MISLEADING LIKE MANY OF THE OTHER REVIEWS THIS GUY DOES!!!!

  18. Willian Gomes

    Willian Gomes3 days ago

    so, this is just a 10 minutes add for apple.

  19. Niemand

    Niemand4 days ago

    The Problem is not .. that Qualcom suck... its just windows is shit... :|

  20. Niemand

    Niemand4 days ago

    Intel be like I will strike back With an Internet Explorer of speed

  21. NXTLVL Iceirio

    NXTLVL Iceirio4 days ago

    intels goanna go down

  22. MegaGouch

    MegaGouch4 days ago

    I still have a Original Surface RT with touch cover and really like it. Sure it only has 30gb of internal storage that needs to be 50% empty to ensure it runs at a usable speed but for file management and doing actual work it's a million times better than any Ipad or Android tablet I've used. If I want to consume content or play candy crush (which I don't) I'll just do it on my phone, for actual work it's far easier to use than the Ipad I have to use at work everyday.

  23. Eric Brunstad

    Eric Brunstad4 days ago

    This is why I bought the Surface Pro 7 instead. It has an Intel i5 processor instead of ARM. And it was much cheaper - less than $1000 from BestBuy including the pen, keyboard, etc..

  24. meledoc

    meledoc4 days ago

    Now, I love Apple M1, but I need ( :-(( ) to use Windows to work. So I try to see under the dust: with a Pro X I can signature or write a document (very well), I have a PC always online (LTE inside), and a second storage SSD disk that I can remove instantly everytime I need.. Not bad. I can't figure out the benchmarks as well. But I love OsX PS: sorry for my bad english

  25. MGoolas

    MGoolas4 days ago

    Even if I am a hardcore Windows fan , I am very excited over Apple's M1 performance as it has already lit a massive fire under Intel's and Microsoft's bum. This is only good for ditching heat churning, electricity chugging x86 cpus in the future

  26. WR

    WR4 days ago

    Apple is amazing.

  27. MyImList

    MyImList5 days ago

    Reading the comments, where did all the Mac Haters go?

  28. John Smith

    John Smith5 days ago

    That thing on your head was ok for a video or two but, dude, you're way too old for the Skater Dude thing.

  29. blondiz

    blondiz5 days ago

    7:22 no fucking way!!!! ahahahahaAHAHAHahahahAHAHHAHAhahah lol

  30. Skrirrex

    Skrirrex5 days ago

    Surface Pro X has been out for quite some time now and still no or very limited support for x64 apps. You have to imagine that if M1 MacBooks have not been released Microsoft are still not gonna work their ass off on their Arm based device and software lol

  31. Atasi Patnaik

    Atasi Patnaik5 days ago

    Where is linus

  32. Dean Krouse

    Dean Krouse5 days ago

    Got the M1 MBA the day it went onsale. Absolutely love it. After years of inflated claims by Apple about performance this one actually lives up to and in some ways surpasses those claims. Pretty great. MY first Mac since the iMac G5.

  33. Jo Seph GD

    Jo Seph GD6 days ago

    I was excited about Apple announced that they would make in-house processors for Macs, since their iPhones have had a history of being more powerful than flagship Androids, even at half the RAM.

  34. samgod

    samgod6 days ago

    So Apple's base Mac embarrassed Microsoft, Intel, and Qualcomm. Will its pro Macs be a bloodletting?

  35. OYeahan

    OYeahan6 days ago

    Well, of course that's slow either way, but to be strict: at 6:03 you finally compared native Cinebench on Mac M1 to emulated x64 on SQ2, nope? Or is there native ARM64 Cinebench?

  36. Lucas

    Lucas7 days ago

    I have never held a Surface device in my hands that wasn't an overpriced PoS.

  37. Howard Treesong

    Howard Treesong4 days ago

    I’ve had one of the eariy versions that felt like you were kicking a dead whale down the beach. They even had a Windows 8R version that was ‘Windows Lite’ for the non-pro user. It was pretty much dead on arrival because you couldn’t do anything serious with it.

  38. Pieter Rossouw

    Pieter Rossouw7 days ago

    Yikes QEMU emulation killing native Windows on ARM. Color me impressed. Still won't buy it because it can't support current developer workloads but it's a good showing for ARM.

  39. itsmeft24

    itsmeft247 days ago

    Everybody gangsta till nintendo joins the arm revolution

  40. Bram vandenbroeck

    Bram vandenbroeck7 days ago

    Maby microsoft should give apple a license and we should get a Boot Camp reboot on the M1 macs!

  41. laen

    laen7 days ago

    Please let us download this MacOs Linus wallpaper

  42. James Budd

    James Budd7 days ago

    Microsoft needs to focus on software and forget hardware. They just got taken to the wood shed. Windows is a mess and so outdated.

  43. Ben Schönhardt

    Ben Schönhardt7 days ago

    I want to have that background for Mac pls, where can I find it?

  44. Robert Ivan

    Robert Ivan7 days ago

    Microsoft screwed up surface from the start by creating slow crappy products. Apple does it right by making their products around $1000 so that any of their products will perform decently.

  45. gpturismo

    gpturismo7 days ago

    Time to open up NT at least...

  46. somebrentdude

    somebrentdude7 days ago

    "sponsOr"

  47. xeong5

    xeong57 days ago

    Why does Linus always get everything wrong. iOS is running OSX, just watch the first keynote when Steve Jobs describes how they needed a desktop class operating system to achieve the performance/feature set they needed.

  48. Matt Ryu

    Matt Ryu7 days ago

    “People who are really serious about software should make their own hardware”

  49. shubi454

    shubi4547 days ago

    Alan K

  50. Daniel Villanueva

    Daniel Villanueva7 days ago

    Being a tech enthusiast and buying anything other than Apple hahahaha

  51. X314

    X3147 days ago

    Until arm is fully capable I'm gonna stick with the i5 pro 7

  52. abe kline

    abe kline7 days ago

    Fool of a Took!

  53. Nik Muhd Hafiz Harun

    Nik Muhd Hafiz Harun7 days ago

    Windows OS and application need serious diet

  54. Marko Velimir Kobak

    Marko Velimir Kobak8 days ago

    the anti-Apple people are very quiet after this video

  55. Delstrom2

    Delstrom28 days ago

    Windows on arm user here. Not even an 8cx laptop, just a snapdragon 850. I bought my device used for 300 and even emulated it runs equally as well if not better than the more expensive (albeit admittedly new instead of used) surface go. I consider that a win in my book. It's not the processor that's the problem, it's the price. One more example of how Linus is a little out of touch if he thinks current windows arm devices aren't useful for anything other than web browsing. They're not optimal, sure, but they're plenty capable, just not worth $1000 yet.

  56. ZMan

    ZMan8 days ago

    WTF is it with guys wearing beanie caps all the time? Stop it.

  57. Pepe Contreras

    Pepe Contreras8 days ago

    Google hates Windows on ARM.

  58. StepUpYourGame

    StepUpYourGame9 days ago

    microsoft is always to early to the parties or they partner with the wrong..

  59. Alexa Cannon

    Alexa Cannon9 days ago

    Ooof. Poor Microsoft 😬 this was brutal

  60. Yatinder Singh

    Yatinder Singh9 days ago

    07:22 this is gonna bruise 😂😂😂🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️

  61. Old Revolver

    Old Revolver9 days ago

    Intel deserves this mass exodus of manufacturers abandoning their platform. This is what happens when you gate keep big generational improvements from happening naturally, just to fill your pockets: the market goes around you and leaves you crying in the rearview mirror.

  62. Ray Roche

    Ray Roche9 days ago

    Did anyone try touch or pen on the Apple M1? It seems to work well on the Pro X but no reports on the M1 pen performance.

  63. Ray Roche

    Ray Roche8 days ago

    Sorry, the M1 does not offer pen input at all, so that comparison is unfair. And the keyboard does not detach so the M1 is a laptop only and the Pro X is a two-in-one with pen computing. Not really comparing apples with apples are we?

  64. omfgbunder2008

    omfgbunder20089 days ago

    0:20 Windows CE?

  65. Somedude.

    Somedude.9 days ago

    running windows vm in a mac always felt pretty smooth.

  66. Beaglefreilauf Kalkar

    Beaglefreilauf Kalkar9 days ago

    I Estimate that Qualcom, when they work together with MS they will be at the Power/Performance level where Apple is now in about 2-3 years. By then Apple will have their M3 and M3x SOC's Since Apple gains single core performance by about 20% each generation on the A series, single core performance will be 44% faster with the M3. Intel is in trouble.

  67. Brearne Gibson

    Brearne Gibson9 days ago

    Because Microsoft believe it's still the mid nineties?

  68. oleg87sh

    oleg87sh9 days ago

    In some parallel universe Apple device will be running windows better than Microsoft’s one.. wait a minute, what the hell!?

  69. valerij zaporogeci

    valerij zaporogeci10 days ago

    in long term, the apple approach will fail, MS, Qualcomm, Nvdia and Co will win this market. but no worries, apple will be fine keeping milking their gullible users further. it's just won't be "domination" as it never was. they voluntarily choose to be a niche for those, who are ready to pay extras for a stupid logo. they might make this chip a standalone product, sell it and become a strong ARM vendor, but they chose to lock it down as much as possible. as result, all its spectacular performance becomes uninteresting - it's a black box, soon, it will so be overcome in performance by the competitors, but they will not be a "we make it all and you just get your money" thing, their things will be building blocks, just like in the x86 market, and we will see competition, in CPUs, motherboards, end user devices and even OSs, of course, if the tiny linux desktop share can be considered competitive. xD whereas this all-apple-only thing is really interesting for only apple fans in the end of the day. and the poor x86 emulation. pfff, come on! it is important at this early stage, but making of it a central point - is a heavy overestimation. why then bother with ARM at all if all you want is to run x86 binaries? let third parties refactor their user mode sh1t to not rely on the CPU, or just add the ARM support!

  70. Aby Mathew

    Aby Mathew10 days ago

    Windows looks more professional

  71. Cyberman86

    Cyberman8610 days ago

    Windows is Stronger in desktops, in Laptops or tablets they Suck really bad.

  72. Adam yonas

    Adam yonas10 days ago

    Hey I’m 12 And taller than Linus

  73. Bradley Simpson

    Bradley Simpson10 days ago

    Microsoft is such an embarrassment.

  74. matt soles

    matt soles10 days ago

    Can we please mention how apples retina display looks a million times better as well?

  75. Ronnie Maldonado

    Ronnie Maldonado10 days ago

    You’re comparing a completed version (MacOS) to a BETA version ( Win10). Why do t you wait until the completed version of Win10 is available then do a comparison.

  76. Ronnie Maldonado

    Ronnie Maldonado9 days ago

    @npgoalkeeper _ the software is there. But like EVERYONE else they’re updating their OS but before they do, they’re releasing the DEVELOPER version to work out the bugs and other issues. The point I was making was that he’s comparing certain features that have been fully released on one OS to another that’s still in BETA. He should wait until the completed version is released to the public then compare the two.

  77. npgoalkeeper _

    npgoalkeeper _10 days ago

    I mean, why release a device at all if the software support isn't there

  78. Brent Smithline

    Brent Smithline10 days ago

    What I would like to see is a version of Windows 10 ARM that could either dual boot, or even better yet run side by side with the macOS/UNIX ARM. This was done before, and can be done again.

  79. Hudstone

    Hudstone10 days ago

    im waiting for the 64-core ARM Mac Pro cpu

  80. plasmar1

    plasmar110 days ago

    ** can kinda consider windows mobile as essentially windows 95 16bit on a mobile I believe; you could run a lot of the programs from winmo on pc:P

  81. The Watcher

    The Watcher10 days ago

    Is x86 doomed?

  82. a boddle88

    a boddle8811 days ago

    4:01 Looking like Watch Dogs lol

  83. Abhishek Sharma

    Abhishek Sharma11 days ago

    I dont think MacBook Air can be compared to Pro X....they do not even have the same specs...as for the price..Microsoft always over charges things 😂

  84. Marcus Xe

    Marcus Xe11 days ago

    I guess windows is officially behind macos now

  85. Efficient Equilibrium

    Efficient Equilibrium11 days ago

    Short answer, SQ2 is a much weaker processor what exactly do you expect ? Next iteration will be different, they will probably use much more powerful arm based processors.

  86. Techno Place

    Techno Place11 days ago

    WE LOVE LINUS!!!

  87. Steve Radich

    Steve Radich11 days ago

    You missed the reason to love Surface Pro X - LTE unlimited tablet plans. Once Apple adds LTE, it better yet 5G, then they will have won the battle. The dual 4k displays os why IPad Pro can't compete with Surface Pro X.

  88. MashAllah Food Secrets

    MashAllah Food Secrets11 days ago

    Intel for years gave us i3 and i5 models at same price as macbook air :(

  89. MashAllah Food Secrets

    MashAllah Food Secrets11 days ago

    PANOS PANAY , CRYING IN THE CORNER! for releasing an overpriced office 365 focused garbage..that doesn't even have a keyboard!

  90. pedro veloso

    pedro veloso11 days ago

    and for example, this have 2 years, "uslikes.info/house/e5p_q5qay2V6da4/video.html", the results are starting to be public. more to come .. :)

  91. pedro veloso

    pedro veloso11 days ago

    8:02...... just 4 years late in development .. only that..kkkk (Microsoft is still a software house, they are allergic to hardware.. kk)

  92. Rozely Lindim

    Rozely Lindim11 days ago

    Congratulations to Apple btw.

  93. Richard Rivera

    Richard Rivera11 days ago

    The aggressive sing individually stretch because zebra problematically alert between a boundless hydrofoil. weary, special soil

  94. Paulo Teixeira

    Paulo Teixeira11 days ago

    Great, but the comparison is not fair!! You shall compare Ipad pro x Surface pro X....

  95. danielxmiller

    danielxmiller12 days ago

    You are testing it on a dev preview though, it's not even released, so I'm not that surprised it did so poorly. Although they should have been way ahead of Apple tbh...they've been working on it for almost a decade now.

  96. IDaniel

    IDaniel12 days ago

    Windows is just dreadful. I stopped using that junk years ago.

  97. Mario Fernando Reyes

    Mario Fernando Reyes12 days ago

    I have never seen anyone suck Apple's dee so hard 😂

  98. kirby march barcena

    kirby march barcena12 days ago

    I didn't even realized the Surface Pro used an ARM processor.

  99. Muhammad Hassan

    Muhammad Hassan12 days ago

    Windows BSD: blue screen error. Still on 2021, Fuck you windows. Team.

  100. Steph M

    Steph M12 days ago

    3:21 you look great on your LTT store beanie ! 😍🤣🤣🤣 3:25 you are welcome

  101. Lasky Labs

    Lasky Labs12 days ago

    Microsoft has continued to drag their feet and pussy foot around ARM, and that's why Apple is in the lead in terms of ARM machines. BOOK IT MICROSOFT! As for Intel... Same to you! Book it!

  102. coth

    coth12 days ago

    I would buy Surface tablet on Windows. But there is no any good to replace iPad Air 2. It has to be 4:3. It has to be thin, no more than 6,5 mm. It doesnt need to have stand. It has to use UFS memory, not laggy eMMC, edge touch protection, like iOS, relative good platform, with at least 2 high performance cores etc etc. And cost no more than $375-400.

  103. myCousinVenny

    myCousinVenny12 days ago

    I guess it's safe to say that so far this hasn't been much of an ARMs race. 🙃 I'll see myself out.

  104. James Pollock

    James Pollock12 days ago

    Does MacBook Air have touch screen and 1080p webcam?

  105. David Vega

    David Vega12 days ago

    7:25 Hahahahahaha

  106. SpetsnatzLegion 336

    SpetsnatzLegion 33612 days ago

    The surface pro line has been a good one for people on-the-go who want a tablet-laptop hybrid but it’s not gonna keep up like this. I have an old SP5 that has served me very well but I’m going to replace it soon because it can’t run the right CAD software well enough and I’m going elsewhere.

  107. RigaRiggleMan

    RigaRiggleMan12 days ago

    nice Mac wallpaper, Linus