Was I WRONG About Apple M1 Silicon - WAN Show November 13 , 2020

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Timestamps (Courtesy of Jae Sok Surh):
00:35 - Topics
2:35 - Intro
3:30 - Apple silicon
9:08 - What Linus got wrong
12:03 - What Apple got wrong
16:14 - Luke's take
17:35 - Back to Linus
36:13 - Fanboyism - Intel vs AMD
47:40 - MOVING ON FINALLY
49:22 - Huge games
52:40 - SPONSORS feat. Linus's ms paint banners
56:19 - Luke's correction about downloading games
57:42 - Dave Lee has entered the chat (apple silicon again)
1:14:02 - TL;DR
1:16:20 - New consoles, fake videos, and other more real issues
1:18:41 - AMD's Smart Access Memory isn't AMD's
1:21:00 - Who is Dave Lee? (Dave2D)
1:21:32 - Intel tech support challenge coming up
1:23:35 - Superchats
1:31:40 - Outro

Comments

  1. Mohit Chhabra

    Mohit ChhabraDay ago

    Dave’s call was my favorite part.

  2. Guy Jones

    Guy Jones3 days ago

    Another dumpster fire review...

  3. Stop Dying

    Stop Dying3 days ago

    Shipping beta products? Why not talk about abandoned Windows RT, Windows Mobile, and Microsoft Band? Windows 10 was a massive beta OS for so long. Even Surface Duo looks beta AF. Early adopters know what they are getting their hands onto. Keep your opinion to yourself, I guess.

  4. Podtrash Radio

    Podtrash Radio3 days ago

    2:09 Linus turns into Larry David.

  5. sam rey

    sam rey3 days ago

    Little off topic. great video i learned a ton from this. I have MacBook Pro (Retina, 13-inch, Mid 2014)My question is what is the best Curved monitors in the 30 inch plus range to pair with this type of mac for the best display. I had a Samsung 32-inch Curved Full HD Monitor in White. It was really bad, it had glare issues and the display was extra large on the monitor. I tried adjusting the ( display setting on the mac computer and the samsung monitor.But to no avail) , and it made my eyes hurt.

  6. David

    David4 days ago

    Day 143 of asking for a PC thanks👍😁

  7. One Again

    One Again4 days ago

    It’s not about skepticism, it’s about being arrogant and biased against Apple by default, even before doing a proper review. The more reviews are released, the more obvious it is that Linus got it wrong. Wrong on form and wrong on content.

  8. Gokul Sajeev

    Gokul Sajeev5 days ago

    Dave can’t win with linus. Jonathan should talk with this nutbag.

  9. Sam Adams

    Sam Adams5 days ago

    The thing is Linus this isn’t an iPad or a first gen new product. It is an iteration on 3 very old products, and all 3 of them perform much better than even high end previous models of the same products. Photoshop can still be used, and a lot intel based apps are actually still performing better via Rosetta than they do on the intel predecessors, even though they are not optimized for ARM. You’re ignoring a lot of important facts.

  10. Sam Adams

    Sam Adams5 days ago

    Here’s an example of an i7 Mac mini with 64gb of ram that underperforms the new m1 with 16gb of ram hugely in almost every way: uslikes.info/house/Z22epc2QtW-oqdw/video.html

  11. PurpleKraken Yut

    PurpleKraken Yut5 days ago

    This is why it's cancer to be a fan boy. Windows or Apple

  12. Dennis Rigdon

    Dennis Rigdon6 days ago

    22:56

  13. Fish

    Fish7 days ago

    9:15 the funny face

  14. MVE

    MVE7 days ago

    5nm is THE FUTURE!

  15. Bulvine Scatologist

    Bulvine Scatologist7 days ago

    The reason i like Intel is when they where in trouble financially the upper mangers went to there employees & told them how things are & ask if they had any ideas. The employees did & upper management did as the employees suggested & this puled Intel out of the financial troubles that they where in. Now I ask you how many upper corporation will ask the employees for advice? Ponder that. This is why I buy INTEL produces . This is who I would like to work for even if I pushed a broom. INTEL Knows how good there employees are . NOW THAT TAKES BALLS.

  16. Bulvine Scatologist

    Bulvine Scatologist7 days ago

    I like instant replays.

  17. Łukasz Tokarski

    Łukasz Tokarski7 days ago

    1:15:00 please don't call something fake without checking source. First instance of smoke from xbox was from Poland and was true. Rn microsoft replaced broken xbox.

  18. Thomas Jensen

    Thomas Jensen7 days ago

    You were wrong about the performance but nothing else

  19. TheBlackIndy

    TheBlackIndy8 days ago

    This is coming from a PC user, if I wanted to do any type of creative professional work I would always go with a Mac, just because of security and reliability, never a PC, my PC is basically a web browser and a gaming machine. I have had too many shitty updates and blue screen to even trust windows with my material.

  20. Randall Decker

    Randall Decker8 days ago

    I could get behind a LTT Tech Rewind

  21. A E S T H I C S

    A E S T H I C S8 days ago

    Linus, you have the budget to pay someone who can actually do pixel art to do the intro now, this filtered google image of a swap is fucking disgusting

  22. Mr. Prev.

    Mr. Prev.8 days ago

    1:21:32 - Intel tech support challenge coming up - WHAT WHEEEEEEEERE!!!!! ITS NOWHERE, AM ON EVERY PLATFORM, WHAT STREAM???!!! HE F-UP THE DATE???!!!! HE SAD 11.24.2020 10:30 AM PT - it's THAT TIME AND DATE NOW!!!!

  23. ForzaE2

    ForzaE28 days ago

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  24. ForzaE2

    ForzaE28 days ago

    Yeah, I am waiting for that too. Did I miss something?

  25. james R.

    james R.8 days ago

    Unfortunately these days even an honest critique can get you labeled as a hater and flamed to ashes. The times we live in are so polarized that this kind of divisiveness has crept into all things. I was interested in an M1 Mini to replace my 2011 iMac but I think I'll wait for more reviews.

  26. Beaglefreilauf Kalkar

    Beaglefreilauf Kalkar8 days ago

    Photoshop not ready, and you blame Apple? No Way Jose. Adobe has been CRAP with Photoshop for years, using single core most of the time, terrible spaghetti code. That is Adobe choosing features over good software. Call me a fanboi, whatever, but not getting the these entry level laptops with these specs show what a gamechanger this move to M-SOC is in the industrie? How can someone beeing as smart as you not get this?

  27. Shadow Chem

    Shadow Chem9 days ago

    performance matter not the numbers

  28. JenniferH

    JenniferH9 days ago

    omg did you say ..., was that wank show ..

  29. Bradley Toussaint

    Bradley Toussaint9 days ago

    First time and last time listener.

  30. Ivan Litvinenko

    Ivan Litvinenko9 days ago

    98% first impressions of M1 macs: "wow apps launch instantly, it wakes up faster than any other laptop, lets try and open 25 tabs, the CPU seems faster while consuming a fraction of the power, lets try to run an iOS app here" Linus: "I saw a stutter on Google Earth, the MacOS installation process is stupid, and lets try some screen recording with a non-optimized third-party application" P.S. I love Linus and can't wait for the actual review of these machines, it just seems like he wasn't at his best in that Macbook Air first impressions video

  31. Vynzography

    Vynzography9 days ago

    I dont own a single apple product so NOT a fanoby but I have to say AT LEAST YOU CAN BUY an apple M1 equiped computer....unlike Nvidia and AMD. This beats graphs with numbers.

  32. Atte Herd

    Atte Herd9 days ago

    Yeah. I agree with alot what you are saying, but your tone and wording really creates picture that apple products are really goin to be really bad. And to that you didn't said to the word that, it doesn't change that at all.

  33. pingu

    pingu10 days ago

    Noot noot

  34. Pro Audio Tools

    Pro Audio Tools10 days ago

    I had a friend say the other day that Linus "oozes hatred for Apple!" My response was "Why, because he is objective?"

  35. MalyJohn3

    MalyJohn310 days ago

    You really should get some of your less tech savvy crew and let them take the wheel for new Build guide. You always miss lots of problems we greenhorns struggle with, because you're you and quality hardware often does not suffer from problems we have to face.

  36. bensdorp1993

    bensdorp199310 days ago

    Hey guys a lot of you maybe already heard the story of KoolKing Logan. He is an awsome kid who just beat cancer and his dream is to become a youtuber. He really makes quality content yesterday alone he got 50k new subscriber as the internet is banding together to help him out. The only thing he needs is a proper setup. Maybe LTT could help out there and hook him up with proper equipment. It would be nice if this post could get some traction so the right people read this. Here is a link to his channel: uslikes.info/to/JeoZ5ubCT1FMi9ad63-M-w.html

  37. Carlos Suarez

    Carlos Suarez11 days ago

    i had the base model mac pro 2013 back in 2014 ... i just got the mac mini and prefer it when editing video and we are talking about a 2300 dollar difference in price here.. so yea .. you were exceptionally wrong.

  38. Ole

    Ole11 days ago

    F*** INTEL. My 10900k is a piece of sh**. And they are keeping the best ones for stupid arrogant PR stunts.

  39. Jim Barber

    Jim Barber11 days ago

    www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/apple-is-lobbying-against-a-bill-aimed-at-stopping-forced-labor-in-china/ar-BB1bdeDL

  40. Anirban Kar

    Anirban Kar11 days ago

    Linus replying to Linus own statement 29:04 at his below video uslikes.info/house/iZqbl8aHk5-NeKo/video.html I know its not geekbench, but its still very flipping tone though lol

  41. iobawan

    iobawan11 days ago

    Funny how fanboys get emotional defending their bare _trust_ in and don't think about specific numbers and independent testing. Under independent testing I mean the Scientific Method itself.

  42. Hugh

    Hugh11 days ago

    vheg

  43. Sir James Brown

    Sir James Brown12 days ago

    I use Cad on my Mac to make blueprints and its amazing The top 10 companies use cad for the Mac.

  44. Sir James Brown

    Sir James Brown12 days ago

    A typical PC tech Have no clue tunnel vision to the max.

  45. Bruce S

    Bruce S12 days ago

    Hahahaha! Wintel is now Won'tdo ! Intel down ! Next is the evil Microsoft !

  46. Anton Badstuber

    Anton Badstuber12 days ago

    I am looking forward, when Linus spiteful scepticism is disproven. Even though nearly all major are favourable to the M1 Macs, It is clear he will continue to defend his statements he has made before the release of Apple M1 products. It is sad he is not open-minded enough to take on board the benefits Apple's move to ARM based architecture can offer for Mac customers and the technology industry as a whole. He seems so bitter for past decision Apple has made that clouds him to see it fairly.

  47. Dominic Moreau

    Dominic Moreau12 days ago

    Interesting segment, I enjoyed listening to it. You make some great points regarding the corporate game play between the chip makers. With the recent apple silicone and past Microsoft ARM powered surface devices showing some viability for these chips in certain applications, what is your prediction on a full industry shift to these chips?

  48. Charles Paek

    Charles Paek12 days ago

    Linus will be the first to admit he is wrong if he sees the data, but until then he can give his damn opinion and speak his mind even if he does have a pair of nice warm sandals in his mouth.

  49. Larry Gall

    Larry Gall12 days ago

    With Apple you have to pay big money for the privilege of being a beta tester.

  50. Ryan Peeples

    Ryan Peeples12 days ago

    this guy is insufferable

  51. Steve Edney

    Steve Edney12 days ago

    Annoying squeaky voice

  52. Brent Smithline

    Brent Smithline12 days ago

    My bad... The Intel site for ThunderBolt 3 was not updated to show the USB4 specification was released on 29 August 2019 by USB Implementers Forum, based on the Thunderbolt 3 protocol specification. Still feel that feel Apple needs to change spec page for Mac M1 products to read . . . Two Thunderbolt / USB4 ports with support for: Charging DisplayPort Thunderbolt 3/USB4 (up to 40Gb/s) USB 3.1 Gen 2 (up to 10Gb/s) Why is this important? It might be just a pipe dream of mine in that using the USB4 standard, and not having to pay Intel that device manufactures will bring able to bring out USB4 standard base devices that will be cost competitive.

  53. Daniel Garcia

    Daniel Garcia12 days ago

    My parents are going to buy me a Mac book for college. Should I get a m1 or the intel chip

  54. TenoDaley

    TenoDaley12 days ago

    The notch isn't completely bad! @35:00 I rather the notch over giant bezels

  55. iFix Phone Repair

    iFix Phone Repair12 days ago

    An entire WAN show dedicated to Apple, I never thought I’d see the day!

  56. Ryan Fitzgerald

    Ryan Fitzgerald12 days ago

    I love watching this to go to sleep boring in a good way

  57. xsanctom

    xsanctom12 days ago

    "They made grand unsubstantiated claims" - consider them substantiated.

  58. apoclypse

    apoclypse12 days ago

    Linus doesn’t understand that Apples video wasn’t made for techtubers who like to release 5 videos within as many days. It was a marketing tool for selling the laptop to customers who won’t know what the numbers mean anyway. He should understand more than most that even if Apple released numbers techtubers would skeptical (just like he is now). Apples uses metrics that consumers can understand like 3x more time to watch video or 2x more power to play games, that doesn’t make then inaccurate and in fact Apple undersold this in most cases. Then there is the whole Rosetta thing. Right now Intel based apps are still performing better for the most part than on Intel hardware. So Linus stop being an ass you were/are wrong and you pc bias isn’t letting you see this.

  59. adi4esh

    adi4esh12 days ago

    It was 5C you moron! Not SE

  60. adi4esh

    adi4esh12 days ago

    And he corrected 15 seconds later.

  61. sidewinder3000

    sidewinder300012 days ago

    Linus, the problem with your point of view about the new Apple Silicon machines is that you basically made a series of clickbaity hottakes about a product you haven’t even used yet. You’re whining about Apple’s “vague claims” with your own vague claims, before you can either verify or refute them with actual testing. Have you followed Apple before? Do you understand their marketspeak? They don’t share a lot of “spec” numbers because it’s hard to compare apples and oranges or Apples and Intels. Androids with TWICE the RAM are typically trounced time and time again by iPhones with half as much RAM. Why? Because integrating the hardware and software yields optimization that can’t be communicated in pure hardware specs. Apple typically gets way more battery life from devices with smaller batteries than Android devices with larger batteries. So talking hardware specs is just rarely a thing they do. And they are also known for being pretty conservative with their performance claims. When they say a device has 9 hour battery life, it usually gets around 9 hours of battery life. So for you to immediately reject their claims about the M1 simply because of some claims that AMD made about their chips defies logic. Hold Apple’s feet to the fire based on THEIR the track record of their previous claims, not AMD’s. And as far as Photoshop, were you aware of how successful the previous Rosetta campaign was? Warning everyone about a problem with Photoshop and Apple Silicon that doesn’t yet exist is the very definition of click bait. Turns out, the M1 chips are so fast, and Rosetta 2 is so well optimized that Photoshop actually runs FASTER on M1 machines than it did on the previous gen Intel machines. It’s OK to criticize Apple. They do a lot of amazing things, but also do some goofy and frustrating things. But criticizing them for unsubstantiated worries about products you haven’t tested yet seems like a bad take. Sure, some of their first gen products have gotten old quickly. But many have been great as well. And these new M1 machines aren’t replacing workhorse editing stations, they’re replacing entry level consumer machines. And from all accounts so far, the M1’s are delivering them heretofore unseen performance levels for that category of machines. I give Apple credit for NOT completely redesigning the whole computer with this first gen, so that the focus could be on the internals and new chips. Will their by more ports and better networking on future generations? Of course. but the assumption that this first gen will be hobbled, rather than a huge leap forward in computing (with a few drawbacks) seems like bias rather than sound reasoning based on track record. By not redesigning the entire MacBook Air, and using a well-tested and beloved baseline, they increase their chances of not having this new batch of M1 MacBook Airs go the way of the do-do any time soon. My prediction: as soon as you test the new machines yourself you’ll be issuing another round of concessions regarding your first batch of hottakes.

  62. Sam Clay

    Sam Clay12 days ago

    Wasn't mentioned but I'm pretty sure the record internet usage topis was from my post on the forum!

  63. Sagar Gangadkar

    Sagar Gangadkar12 days ago

    For god sake Stop your Ego while reviewing Linus 🤦🏻‍♂️

  64. Diggnuts

    Diggnuts12 days ago

    It is all he has.. I mean, he doesn't have insight based on relevant knowledge.

  65. Black Knight Dave

    Black Knight Dave12 days ago

    night linus my wife will be mad if i stay up all night.

  66. Black Knight Dave

    Black Knight Dave12 days ago

    i've built both pc's that are in my house. i went to collage for tech support but i didn't finish because of issues in the home.

  67. Black Knight Dave

    Black Knight Dave12 days ago

    her pc will be done when i find the parts then ill take it to her.

  68. Black Knight Dave

    Black Knight Dave12 days ago

    thanks linus for every thing you do. i watch you to keep up on current events in the tech world. but if you do this you wont like me how i am..... i dont need more ppl to worry about.

  69. Yi Luan

    Yi Luan12 days ago

    My wife: Linus sounds like a villain in comic

  70. Cekeybula

    Cekeybula12 days ago

    It's fascinating some people can't imagine life and existence with out exhibiting cultist or mob mentality behaviours.

  71. Nick Slouka

    Nick Slouka12 days ago

    I’ll just take my PlayStation to a Startbucks and use their WiFi to download updates.

  72. Offduty 57z66

    Offduty 57z6612 days ago

    When are people like you, Rene Ritchie and Johnathan Morrison ever actually going to have head-to head debates about the terminally selective marketing drivel perpetuated by these pathologically profiteering corporations. Instead, you all just ramble on for hours in your respective echo chambers shamelessly begging for subscribers and waiting for the next kindly donated five thousand dollar review sample. Getting stale very fast.

  73. Knut Frockenstöter

    Knut Frockenstöter13 days ago

    Linus is right about Apple quickly abandoning first gen products. Longtime Mac users will remember the first beige G3s who never got OSX support, while the 2nd gen b/w G3s did. Also, the first Intel Macs did not support 64bit x64, so they had to be abandoned quickly when Apple went all x64..

  74. ktm im

    ktm im13 days ago

    your hot

  75. Pablo Horteg

    Pablo Horteg13 days ago

    Bottom line: The M1 is a significantly faster and cooler than Intel equivalents on those products. It's a game changer for Apple gear, Intel will need to lift its game.

  76. G Melch

    G Melch7 days ago

    Matthias Schuster seems faster than AMD too...

  77. Matthias Schuster

    Matthias Schuster8 days ago

    Intel or AMD though?

  78. Fly Guy

    Fly Guy13 days ago

    Linus..... Your extremely Objective ... You have the millions of Subscribers to prove it!!

  79. ismellsweetcorn

    ismellsweetcorn13 days ago

    well this video is not going to age well. The M1 is smoking the laptop competition in its price range.

  80. NotNot Jake

    NotNot Jake13 days ago

    Where's the evidence that these new Macs are going to be supported less than other Macs? Also where's the evidence of this being a 'compromise' and a 'downgrade'

  81. Darrell Young

    Darrell Young13 days ago

    It's always best to review a product's value AFTER it is released and tested.

  82. Diggnuts

    Diggnuts12 days ago

    It also helps if the reviews knows what the hell they are talking about, which is not the case with this click-bait clown!

  83. coolisfoolable

    coolisfoolable13 days ago

    Hey Linus. You know...Why is AMD only clocked at 4.2GHz and Intel is clocked at 4.9GHz and the AMD one is just as fast?

  84. BurninSven1

    BurninSven113 days ago

    It looks like they work ok for video anyway if you check out a few channels here

  85. Isaac Egglestone

    Isaac Egglestone13 days ago

    Based on this review uslikes.info/house/qoKFuLucmW2NiNQ/video.html the M1 looks pretty good. Only downside for devs is no docker and other suppport yet. But that will be fast now that they are out. Buy one in about 6 months and those issues will not be an issue. Another more comprehensive review here: uslikes.info/house/iIyesKWZlqKeop0/video.html

  86. Duane Craig

    Duane Craig13 days ago

    The Apple cult in full force.

  87. Archer

    Archer13 days ago

    I smell just a smidge of crow coming in the coming days. A smidge.

  88. Qianna

    Qianna13 days ago

    Although I understand the tendency to be skeptic over vague claims supported by a trend of generally disappointing products on the one hand, Apple’s way of presenting new products in a vague way using unclear performance graphs with arbitrary values is nothing surprising and has been such for a very, very long time. Thus, whilst yours skepticism is justified in general, it very little applies to Apple as they had never under delivered their claims (which were and are vague, most times), which is a good enough indication of how confident they are in their product. Of course this all is just speculation and I’d be more than happy to see actual performance results under various workloads.

  89. xeyon

    xeyon13 days ago

    1:13:30 I'm perfectly happy with my iPhone 8+. I don't like face id and notches

  90. Adrian Grzegorczyk

    Adrian Grzegorczyk13 days ago

    Dear Mr Linus and Mr Luke, I would like to debuk spreading wrong messege about original XBox video. It may not come accross on the other side of the pond, but Xbox Polska (Xbox Poland) came out with apologise to my Polish fellow and recognized his warranty. Apparently in his case smoke was real and his console actually bursy into flames inside itself. That just tragic that Microsoft went with the flow and downplayed this situation because of the memes that everyone started to make fun of poor guy. That situation could end up tragic if he left the room for longer than he did. And You also went with bandwagon (As a long term viewer/fan/LTT forum member I am disappointed). Also he described everything in interview with great independent and reliable Polish Tech USlikesr (Kuba Klawiter) in material posted on 13.11.2020. I was waiting to write the comment about that from last saturday, but I decided to wait because his case was in progress. Now we know that again media showed their incompetence (The Verge etc.) and socialmedia never fact checks any thing.

  91. Robert T

    Robert T13 days ago

    Seems like Linus got sold on the Nvidia lag measuring marketing gimmick. Sure they can be confident, but they also know that they can sell you in their confidence being equal to product performance.

  92. David Pugh

    David Pugh13 days ago

    Linus, late response but i have to challenge your airpods love. I bought the original airpods and loved them I use them for outdoor activities / exercise but they started giving me trouble with not charging properly. I recently upgraded to noise cancelling buds but opted for sony. Love the noise cancelling you should check them out and do a review. I really loved the wind noise cancelling function when im biking

  93. Jeremy Sydney

    Jeremy Sydney13 days ago

    I love how the last couple WAN shows are just "was I WRONG??"

  94. Rubuk

    Rubuk13 days ago

    I mean Linus did say as a conspiracy that Apple was sandbagging the performance of current Apple computers to make the ARM based macs seem better. Many thing are better than a laptop thermal throttling in the 1.5 is GHz range

  95. Belleza Facil

    Belleza Facil12 days ago

    Which is a dumb thing to say.

  96. Nathan

    Nathan13 days ago

    Why do people pay 50 bucks for a superchat on these streams only for them not to be noticed lmao. Whats the fuckin point? Give your money to a charity or something useful, jesus

  97. Belleza Facil

    Belleza Facil12 days ago

    People like to waste money.

  98. abdullah türkyılmaz

    abdullah türkyılmaz13 days ago

    people keep telling Linus was wrong but he wasn't. M1 chip is a glorified iPad chip with better thermals. If you look at benchmark scores, iPad and MacBook's' scores are really close to each other

  99. Rune Møllegaard

    Rune Møllegaard13 days ago

    He just can't help himself. If it is Apple he always highlight the negatives.He can be critical of it without having tested it. But he can't give it credit without testing first.

  100. Tom Mendenhall

    Tom Mendenhall13 days ago

    I didn't know Linus was a Paleontologist. Anybody who likes X86 must realize they like dinosaur technology. ARM RISC did a drive by smackdown on X86 and Linus doesn't even see it coming.

  101. Zachary Zwanenburg

    Zachary Zwanenburg13 days ago

    Linus USlikes Tech Rewind would be the best!!

  102. Chamieiniibet

    Chamieiniibet13 days ago

    No wonder Linus is using Airpods Pro when not listening to music - would be more surprising if he used them for music as they suck at that on incredible level.

  103. megatom

    megatom13 days ago

    You would think linus would be used to getting picked on. He's a socks in sandals guy with classic nerd voice but he sure gets real fired up with ppl talk trash about him being a fanboy or a shill whatever that is.

  104. Reda Bell

    Reda Bell13 days ago

    I hate Apple but what they did with their new MacBook Air oh boy ! It’s just a freaking revolution !

  105. justme

    justme13 days ago

    You apple stans need to calm it. The problem is the graphs and apple not caring to show actual data

  106. Hunter Vapes

    Hunter Vapes13 days ago

    Intel: Blue Lives Matter! AMD: Red Lives Matter! NVidia: Green Lives Matter! Linus Tech: No Lives Matter! Not a single company gives a F&¢€ about the Customer! 💯

  107. Dave and Tamara

    Dave and Tamara13 days ago

    I think its pretty clear they still have business with intel and probably couldn't shame them in the presentation

  108. Pete Thorne

    Pete Thorne13 days ago

    The iPad comparison still seems weak. The suggestion is that the hardware can be separated from the software. But I think Apple’s deal is that you have to take the package as a whole.

  109. LBXZero

    LBXZero13 days ago

    Looking at some of the real specs behind Apple's M1 CPU, it will be a misunderstood CPU at first due to being among the first laptop CPUs designed in this fashion. The Apple M1 CPU is not a traditional 8 core CPU but a 4+4 Core CPU, as in 4 cores have one architecture designed for low power and 4 cores have a different architecture designed for performance. All 8 use the same ARM machine code, just function differently. As such, the performance will scale up to 4 cores and then drift off because the extra threads would be forced onto the low power cores. Intel and AMD are suppose to be building new laptop CPUs similar to this design, trying to squeeze more battery life. We should expect the low power ARM cores to be similar to the ultra-mobile cores, but the performance cores are the beasts we should watch. According to a Cinebench R23 score, the performance cores could rival AMD's Zen 3 cores while on the laptop CPU design. I would not doubt Apple probably has a full desktop CPU in the pipe with all performance cores and open power utilization. This is where the big upset is. There a a bunch of diehard "x86" supporters among the PC community. If Apple succeeds at making a more powerful consumer CPU that is not x86, these x86 fanatics are concerned that ARM will invade the PC landscape next. Linus is apparently one of them. A short history lesson on x86, it was designed for memory efficiency, not performance. The intents of x86 was to make affordable consumer computers for hobbyists, in which RAM was expensive. At that time, having the computer was more than enough. x86 only exists today because businesses want to be cheap.

  110. Sombra

    Sombra13 days ago

    Actually there are references to the graph on Apple website

  111. Janusz Dziedzic

    Janusz Dziedzic13 days ago

    In every other WAN show there is something wrong with sponsors, feels like LTT doesn't treat sponsors with respect.

  112. madagaska

    madagaska13 days ago

    I'm glad people are calling Linus out in the comments. A lot of people agreed with Linus in his last M1 video which is quite funny